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Re: ATHEISM SUCKS!
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You can pray? for ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:50:59
You can pray? for me, I'll think for you ;)

Well if I see? ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:50:16
Well if I see? suffering and can stop it I would help because I get my morals from myself, if God doesn't stop a flood when it is about to kill innocent people then that means he is immoral. To get your moral code from God is evil.

Nice talking? to ...
By: DustyAndPistolPete. on 27 Nov 11, 17:50:11
Nice talking? to you,God bless and take care.Do not be offended that I'll say a prayer for you.

Well I think if you ...
By: DustyAndPistolPete. on 27 Nov 11, 17:49:21
Well I think if you look at the morals of ancient Greece and Rome which were violent and at? many times evil I would argue that atheists aren't naturally predisposed to being peaceful.Likewise I don't believe that you can define a clear morality without a clear starting point of what a human being is.You have to define it as more than an animal if you want it to behave better than an animal.

You talk of ...
By: DustyAndPistolPete. on 27 Nov 11, 17:47:28
You talk of disasters and say 'Why didn't God help?' I gave you an example of the sufferings for Blessed Jose Sanchez and StMaximilian Kolbe in seeing the good in all others.If morality? is what harms others then believing in an imaginary friend is harmless and should be left alone.I knew straight off the bat you had read Harris,Dawkins and Hitchens bcos I've seen the same arguments time and time again and they are written from the perspective of people living in Christian society

All I'm saying is ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:36:25
All I'm saying is you seem moral and don't want harm or suffering to come to humans, I am the exact same way, needing faith in the supernatural is useless because atheists (the? ones I know anyway) are proof that we are moral for good reason without God. If you still need an imaginary friend to help you be moral, then that's your problem. Have a good one.

Anyway we can argue ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:34:30
Anyway we can argue all day, we will never see eye? to eye.

How can I be scared ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:33:48
How can I be scared of death? What indicated that to you? If I was scared of death I would convert to Christianity and accept Jesus into my heart so I can have eternal life when I die like most christians do because they are scared of death.....Because I don't believe in ghost stories, and I'm not? scared of death, I would never subject my mind to the tragedy known as religion. Imaginary friends are stupid, especially for adults.

Science also got us ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:31:36
Science also got us medicine, which is very good. My whole point is there is no evidence of a God, so to believe in him is just as silly as believing in unicorns, flying monsters, or the easter? bunny. Adults shouldn't have imaginary friends, that's outrages.

God does things to ...
By: DustyAndPistolPete. on 27 Nov 11, 17:30:14
God does things to ultimate end of what is good for people.You sound pretty afraid of death yourself if you don't mind? me saying?God gave his own son to die,and whether you believe in Christ or not,without a belief in his death,Western society would not be as good as it is today.People do far worse things to each other than God.

All you are doing ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:29:39
All you are doing is admitting that without religion you would see no good reason not to harm people or do bad things....I think that is a sick and twisted way to think, it makes it seem like you need something else? besides yourself to be good, making you evil and immoral by your own if you believe in God. I am happy knowing I am good by myself, you have to be good because of religion, that's horrible and I hope you snap out of it.

Beforce science?The ...
By: DustyAndPistolPete. on 27 Nov 11, 17:27:57
Beforce science?The ancient Greeks and Romans did much for science as have many Christians,Georges Lamaitre and Gregor Mendel,Copernicus and Galileo(regardless of his troubles with the Church,he was? of faith).This retreat to atheism from science in the past 50 years has occured in conjuction with the focus on microbiology.Let's not forget science built the atom bomb,fat load of good that was.

There is no ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:27:42
There is no absurdity in an atheistic universe, what's outrages is thinking you can't have good reasons to be moral without God, yet I'm an atheist, and have good reasons to be moral without God. meaning you are? absolutely wrong in every aspect. Our world would be better off without religion, adults with imaginary friends who promise them eternal life if they follow steps cannot be anything by harmful to a society.

If God exists he ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:25:23
If God exists he doesn't have empathy, natural disasters, famine, disease kill many? innocent people and God doesn't stop it, he even created it, meaning God is either powerless or evil. It makes more sense that he just doesn't exist.

I don't think? God ...
By: DustyAndPistolPete. on 27 Nov 11, 17:24:51
I don't think? God lives in the sky,nor do I ever recall him holding my hand.Ah 'Lame'.Cheers for that.Well I've read some smart atheists(there is a difference between book smart and culturally smart).Sartre and Beckett hit the nail on the head in describing the absurdity of life.Sam Harris seems to forget the absurdity of an atheistic universe.

If you are a ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:24:07
If you are a sociopath who harms and causes misery, you should be locked up so you can't cause harm and misery to others. Simple morals? derived from logic, not the 10 commandments written by old men thousands of years ago before science.

@DustyAndPistolPete ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:22:32
@DustyAndPistolPete If you cannot feel empathy it doesn't? matter, because if you cause? harm and misery to others then people with empathy will stop you, most of us do have empathy, so this isn't a problem.

Sam Harris is ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:21:06
Sam Harris is brilliant and he puts people with faith to shame, especially in the debate about the afterlife. He is a neuroscientist, meaning? he knows how the brain works, to call this man not smart is not smart in itself. What's not smart is believing in an imaginary friend in the sky who holds your hand and tells you right from wrong because you are too lame to understand it yourself, and believing he can offer you eternal life. If anything is "not very smart", it's that.

What if you are a ...
By: DustyAndPistolPete. on 27 Nov 11, 17:19:34
What if you are a sociopath and cannot feel empathy?Are you? excused from being moral to others?

I've seen Sam ...
By: DustyAndPistolPete. on 27 Nov 11, 17:18:41
I've seen Sam Harris and he's not very smart.Thomas Aquinas,Augustine,Chesterton,they are smart.It's funny how atheists are first to insult others intelligence.I'm sure you are a smart enough chap.As I've mentioned already I've read plenty of Nietzsche and Foucault,and look how they ended up.There's no reason in an atheistic universe as to why 'harm and misery' are immoral.Or that? there is such things as morals.This 'empathy' argument is all relative and subjective,empty.

So lets recap ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:16:43
So lets recap because you keep asking the? same question: I am life, I see other life, I feel empathy towards life that gets harmed or feels misery, this means harm and misery to life are not good, making the least amount of harm and misery to life, good. You can derive your morals from logic. Hitler caused harm and misery, meaning what he did was not good, making it wrong. Understand?

I already explained ...
By: theBartone9119. on 27 Nov 11, 17:14:44
I already explained it you , i'll do it 3948399483 time again since you aren't smart enough to understand. Whatever caused the? least suffering and misery to life is good in science, Sam Harris has a video on you-tube on how science can explain morality. Since what Hitler did caused harm and misery, it is WRONG. Do you understand now? Or do I have to repeat myself again?

'From my mind' ...
By: DustyAndPistolPete. on 27 Nov 11, 17:13:26
'From my mind' that's the only place it'll ever? stay.I believe morality and justice are for all people regardless of circumstance or point in time.

So what? was wrong ...
By: DustyAndPistolPete. on 27 Nov 11, 17:11:39
So what? was wrong with what Hitler did in an atheistic universe?Let's say everyone in the world thinks that it is right...it is right surely?

My Brother Loves Drum And Bass
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we put some drum and bass on and my little brother loved it :P

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all of us running through the puddle sadly though i havent got the one of me falling over lol haha

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